on the need for educational transmission in p2p (PeerToPeer) May 2, 2010
Hi Franz and everyone.
I have highlighted the parts of Franz's email below to show the parts that I respond to in my heart and mind, and would like to discuss in depth at some point - in general and specific ways. (apologies if this is a list where I should only use the simplest kind of text and should not have used highlighting)
For now, regarding a detailed response I simply flag up some related specific examples to support what Franz is suggesting.
Ref "every local community experience and feed it back into a
living body of experience" and " Lampao village....too dry.... solar driven pump; a solar collector should turn solar energy into mechanical energy.... That mechanical energy should drive the pump. or if there
are some niftier connections between the thermal and the flow side, find
out about them."
Such information would be relevant and valuable for Attachab eco-village http://www.dadamac.net/projects/attachab
The land is bordered by a river. They have a long dry season and would welcome knowing more about good practice for irrigation using solar energy - if it was practical and affordable.
I also note the reference to studying fishery. The team at Attachab have experimented with fish farming. Their experiments included making temporary ponds which used the water from the river during the dry season - knowing that when the rainy season came the walls of the ponds would be washed away. Their previous ponds were unsuccessful because there was not a sufficient flow of water through them. My impression is that solar energy is not appropriate for pumping water on the scale that would be needed to have successful pond on higher ground fed from the water supply of the river. If progress is made in this respect we would love to know about it - even if it is just for some irrigation, and not for the fish ponds.
Ref "This link between virtual and physical community is in a nutshell the core
Recent examples are biomass stoves:
http://dadamac.posterous.com/first-thursday-continuation-session-april-29t
http://dadamac.posterous.com/topic-thursday-bucket-stoves-with-chat-archiv
and using twitter (how and why - to help people in our virtual community to connect more easily with each other online - and with other people):
http://dadamac.posterous.com/second-thursday-twitter-in-the-chat-room
http://dadamac.posterous.com/oops-belated-april-8th-twitter-report
http://dadamac.posterous.com/third-thursday-april-15th-twitter-in-the-chat
http://dadamac.posterous.com/dadamac-tweeters-session
I am not able to follow all that goes on in P2P - but I hope I manage to keep up with this thread.
Pamela
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From: Michel Bauwens Date: 2 May 2010 07:02
Subject: [p2p-research] on the need for educational transmission in p2p
To: Peer-To-Peer Research List <p2presearch@listcultures.org>
by Daniel Araya
capitalism? I would say yes possibly: If the innovation cycle is faster
and of higher quality. In the meantime I see corporations developing
platforms for collaborative innovation as the next wave of capitalism. P2P
may ultimately replace this (I add: abusive scheme of)
crowdsourcing/user-innovation but I would still argue that none of this
will happen without a cultural project focused on transmitting skills and
ideas. In other words, education... "
Collective self-education as the center of transformation.
utterly important.
transfer system that is focussed on local resilience and practical
capabilities. We must do everything to link up with Transition Towns, Gaia
University, P2PU and likeminded institutions and motivate those networks
to reach out even more to local cores of community building that result in
building, doing, making - at high quality.
importance of every local community experience and feed it back into a
living body of experience.
multipliers is a unique opportunity to deepen the understanding that
*attention has to be decoupled from the temporary and spectacular* and *it
should be focussed on the reality of "bringing the mind home" into our
everyday world* and thus lead to real connectedness.
productive capacities, and in my view the conditions are super - ripe ;
especially in italy ; to lay out a more concrete vision of community
empowerment.
are still struggling to create our collaboration rooms that really enable
us to combine global cooperation with local impact. Giuseppe is one of the
VideoBridgers and I hope he will come up with community based solutions in
Italy.
common standards, and last but not least also a repository of stuff.
(hence my emphasis on Global Innovation Commons)
(franz.rieger) is currently in Thailand. Its a really good
example also in relation to your red shirt stories - a very poor area
named Isaan. He has been there for three months, helping in the
development of the so called Lampao village. He is supporting a family
there since years - pays for the tuition and living costs of 2 sons, one
of them in Chiang Mai studying fishery by the way ;-)
is too dry, and there is only one harvest per year possible. Education is
very poor there, the agricultural equipment is old, the soil is sandy and
dry, as is the climate outside the rain season. On the other side there is
a giant artificial lake nearby, but it is located deeper than the rice
fields of this particular village. So they came up with the idea of a
solar driven pump; a solar collector should turn solar energy into
mechanical energy (something that Juergen Kleinwaechter has already done
with Sun Pulse). That mechanical energy should drive the pump. or if there
are some niftier connections between the thermal and the flow side, find
out about them.
people from there are engaging in global projects. It would be wonderful
if there would be opportunities to link up individuals and groups all over
the world in Videobridge centers to start synchronous telecooperation to
solve everyday problems and empower people to deal with efficient
technologies. Or even better, use the visual medium to clearly capture
present and demonstrate problematiques and apply and comment on these
visuals in video conversations.
of the educational system that we need. We must start talking about it,
and see who will be there to build it. We should at least be part of that
effort.
Franz